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قديم 14-09-06, 02:06 PM   رقم المشاركة : 1
مؤدب
اعطوني ذا عقل
 
الصورة الرمزية مؤدب







مؤدب غير متصل

مؤدب is on a distinguished road


اعطونا الخبر العاجل عن البابا السادس يا أخوان


الحمد لله وبعد ,

نريد الحماقة التي نطق بها البابا السادس أعلى مرجعية دينية مسيحية . والتي يقول فيها أن محمداً لم يأتي إلا بكل سيئ ويخالف العقل .

اتفق المسيح والرافض على مسبة هذا الدين .
هؤلاء يسبون الكتاب والنبي - صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم -
والرافضة يسبون حملة هذا الدين .

النتيجة واحدة ... هدم الإسلام .


بسرعة .







التوقيع :
لمن يريد أن يسبني أو يشتمني أو يقلل من قدري فله ذلك . على هذا الإميل .


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( ألا يسع الرافضة ما وسع أمير المؤمنين من السكوت عن الصحابة لو فرضنا ظلمهم له ) ؟
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قديم 14-09-06, 02:44 PM   رقم المشاركة : 2
أبو الليثين
عضو







أبو الليثين غير متصل

أبو الليثين is on a distinguished road


Pope Benedict distributing communion Tuesday to some of the 250,000 people who attended the Mass he celebrated in Regensburg, Germany.

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By IAN FISHER
Published: September 13, 2006
REGENSBURG, Germany, Sept. 12 — Pope Benedict XVI weighed in Tuesday on the delicate issue of rapport between Islam and the West: He said that violence, embodied in the Muslim idea of jihad, or holy war, is contrary to reason and God’s plan, while the West was so beholden to reason that Islam could not understand it.

Nonetheless, in a complex treatise delivered at the university here where he once taught, he suggested reason as a common ground for a “genuine dialogue of cultures and religions so urgently needed today.”

In all, the speech seemed to reflect the Vatican’s struggle over how to confront Islam and terrorism, as the 79-year-old pope pursues what is often considered a more provocative, hard-nosed and skeptical approach to Islam than his predecessor, John Paul II.

As such, it distilled many of Benedict’s longstanding concerns, about the crisis of faith among Christians and about Islam and its relationship to violence.

And he used language open to interpretations that could inflame Muslims, at a time of high tension among religions and three months before he makes a trip to Turkey.

He began his speech, which ran over half an hour, by quoting a 14th-century Byzantine emperor, Manuel II Paleologus, in a conversation with a “learned Persian” on Christianity and Islam — “and the truth of both.”

“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread the sword by the faith he preached,” the pope quoted the emperor, in a speech to 1,500 students and faculty.

He went on to say that violent conversion to Islam was contrary to reason and thus “contrary to God’s nature.”

But the section on Islam made up just three paragraphs of the speech, and he devoted the rest to a long examination of how Western science and philosophy had divorced themselves from faith — leading to the secularization of European society that is at the heart of Benedict’s worries.

This, he said, has closed off the West from a full understanding of reality, making it also impossible to talk with cultures for whom faith is fundamental.

“The world’s profoundly religious cultures see this exclusion from the divine, from the universality of reason as an attack on their most profound convictions,” he said. “A reason which is deaf to the divine and which relegates religion into the realm of subcultures is incapable of entering into the dialogue of cultures.”

Several experts on the Catholic Church and Islam agreed that the speech — in which Benedict made clear he was quoting other sources on Islam — did not appear to be a major statement on, or condemnation of, Islam. The chief concern, they said, was the West’s exclusion of religion from the realm of reason.

Still, they said that the strong words he used in describing Islam, even that of the 14th century, ran the risk of offense.

Renzo Guolo, a professor of the sociology of religion at the University of Padua, who often writes about the church and Islam, said he was struck by the suggestion of Islam as distant from reason.

“This is maybe the strongest criticism because he doesn’t speak of fundamentalist Islam but of Islam generally,” he said, “Not all Islam, thank God, is fundamentalist.”

The Rev. Daniel A. Madigan, rector of the Institute for the Study of Religions and Cultures at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome, said the central point was that “if we are really going into a serious dialogue with Muslims we need to take faith seriously.” But, he said of the quote from the emperor, “You clearly take a risk using an example like that.”

Marco Politi, the Vatican expert for the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, said that “the text reveals his deep mistrust regarding the aggressive side of Islam.”

“Certainly he closes the door to an idea which was very dear to John Paul II — the idea that Christians, Jews and Muslims have the same God and have to pray together to the same God,” he said.

The speech was a central moment in Benedict’s six-day trip home to visit Bavaria, where he grew up, became a priest, a prominent theologian and, finally, a cardinal. Earlier in the day, at an outdoor Mass here attended by some 250,000 people, he expressed similar concerns as in the speech, urging believers to stand up against the “hatred and fanaticism” that he said were tarnishing the image of God.

Again, this critique seemed aimed as much at secular Western society as at any other threat.







 
قديم 14-09-06, 02:46 PM   رقم المشاركة : 3
أبو الليثين
عضو







أبو الليثين غير متصل

أبو الليثين is on a distinguished road


المصدر
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/13/wo...86d&ei=5087%0A







 
قديم 14-09-06, 03:34 PM   رقم المشاركة : 4
خالد البحريني
عضو نشيط





خالد البحريني غير متصل

خالد البحريني is on a distinguished road


دع القافلة تسير و كلب الفاتيكان ينبح







 
قديم 14-09-06, 04:37 PM   رقم المشاركة : 5
النيزك
عضو نشيط





النيزك غير متصل

النيزك is on a distinguished road


اليهود والنصارى والرافضه اخوه في الرضاعه
رضعوا من الشيطان







 
قديم 14-09-06, 04:40 PM   رقم المشاركة : 6
أبو عاصم
عضو فعال







أبو عاصم غير متصل

أبو عاصم


سبحان الله

نفس اعتقاد اية الشيطان الخميني عامله الله بعدله الا وهو اتهام النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم اما بعدم اكمال الرسالة او ان الشعب الايراني افضل من عصر الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم







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تجري الأمور ُ على وفق القضاء وفي طي الحوادث محبوب ٌ ومكروه ُ
فربما سرني ما كنت ُ أحذرُه وربما سائني ما كنت ُ أرجوه ُ
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وفي الجهل قبل الموت موت ٌ لأهله وأجسامهم قبل القبور ِ قبور ُ
وأرواحهم في وحشة ٍ من جسومهم وليس لهم حتى النشور ِ نشور ُ
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سبحان رب العرش متقن صنعه ومؤلف الأضداد دون تعاند ِ
قطر ٌ تولد عن لهيب ٍ في الحشا ماء ٌ ونار ٌ في محل ٍ واحد ِ
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